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Jun 20, 2018

Wednesday, June 20 2018, Roger & Kathy Wienberg


Theme:

17. Fidgety: ILL AT EASE.

25. "Is that it?": WHAT ELSE.

35. T.S. Eliot poem, with "The": WASTE LAND.

52. Behold in amazement: MARVEL AT.

61. Employee hours suggested by this puzzle's circles: LATE SHIFT.

Melissa here. SHIFT clues us in that LATE will be scrambled - four ways. Not just scrambly, but Scrabble-y, with K, V, X, Y and Z - but alas no J or Q. (Googling for scrambled things, I came across this funny.)

Across:

1. Not quite round: OVAL.

5. Gumbo vegetable: OKRA.

9. Ply: LAYER.

14. Like every U.S. president: MALE. So far.

15. "Coulda been a lot worse!": PHEW.

16. Romantic text: ILUVU. Romantic, if you're 12.

19. Gymnast Simone who won four golds in Rio: BILES.


20. Carefree: GAY.

21. The "I" of "The King and I": ANNA. Anna Leonowens.

22. Masters: MAVENS.

23. Characteristic of the villain in "The Fugitive": ONE ARM.


27. All-in-one printer feature: SCANNER.

29. Actor Wallach: ELI.

30. Unconscious: OUT.

31. "__ goes nothing!": HERE.

32. Muse of poetry: ERATO.

34. Navig. technology: GPS.

39. Sprite: ELF.

42. Admonish: CHIDE.

43. They're on the phone: APPS. Fun clue.

47. Classical lead-in: NEO.

48. Recycle bin item: CAN.

49. Work on, as a vintage auto: RESTORE.

55. Pluto's largest moon: CHARON.


56. Trip up: ASCENT. Love the clue!

57. Use a wrecking ball on: RAZE.

59. Ode title words: TO A.

60. Metaphor in a gambling debacle: SHIRT. Not SHORTs.

63. Smell or taste: SENSE.

64. Ancient Dead Sea region: EDOM. Descendants of Esau. Cave dwellers.


65. Slurpee, basically: ICEE.

66. Tidied, as a lawn: EDGED. What else besides a lawn?

67. TV warrior princess: XENA.

68. Sci-fi escape ships: PODS.

Down:

1. "Heavens!": OMIGOSH.

2. Window topper: VALANCE.

3. Twelve-month: ALL YEAR.

 4. Thompson of "Switched at Birth": LEA.

 
5. Gift box direction: OPEN ME.

6. Genghis __: KHAN.

7. Watched again: RESAW.

8. Astound: AWE.

9. Liquid poured in honor of a deity: LIBATION.

10. Animated: ALIVE.

11. Holiday fireplace item: YULE LOG.

12. Ties, as a score: EVENS UP.

13. Potatoes often used for fries: RUSSETS. Michael Pollan describes the Russet Burbank.

18. Alpine lake: TARN. Beautiful.

22. Island near Sicily: MALTA.

24. Yet again: ANEW.

26. Physician, hopefully: HEALER.

28. Light-sensitive eye part: RETINA.

33. Great American Ball Park player: RED. This Red?

36. Like some French vowels: ACCENTED.

37. Commandment verb: SHALT.

38. Spreadsheet input: DATA.

39. As a group: EN MASSE.

40. On a tether: LEASHED.

41. Compelling: FORCING.

44. Colonnaded entryway: PORTICO.


45. Reviewed for typos: PROOFED.

46. State assemblies: SENATES.

50. Skin malady: ECZEMA.

51. "__ So Unusual": Cyndi Lauper's debut studio album: SHE'S.

53. Poet's creation: VERSE.

54. Word with secret or school: TRADE.

58. Scads: A TON.

61. Supervillain Luthor: LEX.

62. In the know: HIP.


60 comments:

OwenKL said...

I was expecting, since LATE was enbubbled early, that the reveal would involve a "twisted TALE". I didn't even notice till I read the reveal that the letters weren't scrambled, but progressed, while keeping the same order:
.LATE.
ATE.L
TE.LA
E.LAT

Interesting seeing both CHARON and XENA, since XENA was the provisional name of one of the recently discovered trans-Neptunian minor planets. I thought there were only 5 or 6, but looked it up just now, and was bowled over to read "As of February 2017 over 2,300 trans-Neptunian objects appear on the Minor Planet Center's List of Transneptunian Objects... As of November 2016, 242 of these have their orbits well-enough determined that they have been given a permanent minor planet designation."!

Seems like a lot of MA's in the puzzle.

There was a novice MAVEN from MALTA
Who wore what he shouldn't have oughtta.
Folks still MARVEL AT
His topaz set of spats,
MALE tights, and RED SHIRT made from salsa!

Sometimes, when a natick is puzzling,
Has you thinking of LIBATION guzzling,
A Wag, like as not,
If you give it a shot,
Will RESTORE you TO Alphabet juggling!

When ERATO a child would CHIDE,
'Twas because she knew that inside,
Each one has a VERSE,
Either verbose or terse,
To be UNLEASHED to feel fully ALIVE!

{B-, A-, B+.}

Lemonade714 said...

The Wienbergs are back with what I found to be a challenging Wednesday. There were no real unknowns, but it just did not fill quickly for me at all. TARN, I LUV U, CHARON, EDOM, and PORTICO all required work and perps.

A CSO to my Denver son who works at Poka Lolo Social Club un the MAVEN HOTEL in Denver.

Thank you, R and K and mb, always a pleasure.

Lemonade714 said...

Speaking of Denver, Food Network has put out their list of the best Pizza places in America's biggest cities. PIZZA ARTICLE which features HOPS and PIE the first place my son worked in Denver. Since you are located all across the country, what do you think of their choices for your town?

fermatprime@gmail.com said...

Greetings!

Thanks to Roger, Kathy and mb!

Great puzzle! Didn't know SHE'S. Otherwise OK. Great puns in today's NYT puzzle.

Have a great day!

Lemonade714 said...

Fermat, the NYT is fun and it is created by our own Jeffrey Wechsler. Enjoy that solve as well.

OVAL is Not Quite Round said...

Stop with the circles already!

desper-otto said...

Good morning!

Had the circles. Saw the theme. Finished early, not LATE. I did have to change EDAM to EDOM and HEP to HIP, but otherwise it was a mad dash to the finish. Thanx, Roger, Kathy and Melissa. (great TARN photo. No, not that Red Think Cincinnati.)

No APPS on my flip-phone.

Merriam-Webster doesn't like OMIGOSH. Believe I've only seen it in cws.

In my ute I had a bumper sticker on my bike: "watch my ASCENT"

Anonymous said...

I agree about the circles. Enough. Does anyone edit these clues. The worst one was watched again-resaw. Would you even use this word in a sentence?

Oas said...

Thanks for the workout. A little slow to start but enjoyable. Had to change Latenight to LATESHIFT and check on Pluto’s moon to FIR. PORTICO and PROOFED were swimming around near the surface of my muddled brain with the indecision of is it Ode On a or Ode TOA Grecian urn. Only trouble at the bottom right. The rest came to light fairly quickly.
Happy hump day to all ;-/

Oas said...

Favorite misdirection was TRIP UP. Tripped me up for a bit.

Big Easy said...

With the circles it was either a 'scrambled TALE' or LATE SHIFT. The 'compelling' problem I had was on ASCENT. For some idiotic reason I kept thinking ASCEND for the 'Trip up' clue, as in 'tripping on your way UP the stairs'. Better than tripping DOWN the stairs. Then the V8 moment hit for you 'Trip up' to heaven. But I SHALT not let that bother me.

I LUV U- maybe on Valentines candy but I would classify it as UN-romantic text. My Messages App reads the incoming texts and provides three possible responses for your response. Anybody wonder why people can't spell or write?

LEA Thompson solved by perps today- the only unknown. I never knew a LIBATION was honoring anything. It's just a drink. OMIGOSH- D-O, I don't like it either. But it is what it is.

Yellowrocks said...

Good puzzle. FIR. Only unknown was RED. Just now LIU. "Great American Ball Park serves as the home of the Cincinnati Reds" AHA!
Trip up almost tripped me up. Very clever misdirection. I needed four perps before it dawned on me. I needed two perps to decide which moon, Charon. Otherwise pretty smooth.
Edom always brings to mind this hymn about the Magi whose gifts traditionally were gold, frankincense (odors of Edom) and myrrh.
"Say, shall we yield Him, in costly devotion,
Odors of Edom and offerings divine?
Gems of the mountain and pearls of the ocean,
Myrrh from the forest, or gold from the mine?"

I expected a dust up over resaw. The dictionary lists resee/resaw. Spell check flags it.
A resaw is a machine used for the cutting of previously sawn wood or, used as a verb, to saw again.
Omigosh is in the Slang Dictionary. Seems normal to me. I often hear it as "Oh my gosh," pronounced quickly. I have seen it spelled that way in novels.

Spitzboov said...

Good morning everyone.

FIR, but not so easy. Needed perp help a lot. Circle theme helped to verify solve was on the right track. I also thought the clue for ASCENT was clever.

Irish Miss said...

Good Morning;

I agree that there was some crunch today but, overall, no real stumbling blocks. I had Lago before Tarn but everything else filled in nicely. I didn't pay attention to the circled letters until the reveal "revealed" the theme. Nose wrinkle at Resaw.

Thanks, Roger and Kathy, for a smooth mid-week solve and thanks, Melissa, for the pleasant tour. Any recent pictures of Jaelyn (sp?) you'd care to share?

I received the two restaurant gift cards that I ordered and was very pleased with their presentation packaging. One even included a reduced-size menu.

Have a great day.

CanadianEh! said...

Wonderful Wednesday. Thanks for the fun, Roger & Kathy, and melissa bee.
Just a little crunchy today but not A TON.

I saw the L A T E early and at first thought we had Shades of Blue (Teal) theme. LATE soon revealed itself.

WEES re ASCENT and RESAW.
I started to enter Annual- for "12 month" clue; perps changed it to ALL YEAR.
My lawn was Mowed before EDGED.
Hand up for SE corner being the last to fill. Whiteout was needed to change Portice to PORTICO (correcting the head-scratcher Peds to PODS); I misspelled Zena but LEX corrected it to XENA.

I noted MARVEL and AWE, and CSOs to our poets with ERATO and VERSE.

I smiled at Melissa's "No yet" comment on 14A. No Politics, but Canadians had a female PM back in 1993 (but only for 4 months).

Canadian SENATE is not a State assembly but the upper house of the Parliament of Canada. AnonT and I have had discussions previously. Yesterday the Senate approved the cannabis legislation bill, paving the way for legalization within 8 to 12 weeks.

Enjoy the day. Another beautiful one here.

Husker Gary said...

Musings
-LATE stood out but it took the reveal to make sense of it
-This definition of GAY – “relating to, or exhibiting sexual desire or behavior directed toward a person or persons of one's own sex; homosexual: a gay couple” is now the #1 definition at dictionary.com
-RESTORING a 1972 VW bus has become my neighbor’s obsession and money pit
-The ASCENT is not the only dangerous part
-E _ _ _ is not this biblical land
-My lawn needs EDGING but 2” of rain in 2 days has delayed that
-I worked with chemical VALENCES long before I heard about VALANCES
-The REDS old ball park, CROSLEY FIELD, hosted this first in 1935
-Serendipity - the juxtaposition of LAUPER/ECZEMA – Cyndi now does commercials for a psoriasis medicine
-In Nebraska, Helen Boosalis was elected America’s first female, Republican governor

WikWak said...

Good morning, Corner. A good solid Wednesday puzzle today, thanks to Roger & Kathy, and neatly wrapped up by mb. Loved the Scrambled Eggs!

Hand up for never knowing that a LIBATION was in honor of a god. Hand up also for really liking the clues for ASCENT and TRIP UP. Made me grin when I saw them, and I am not usually a morning grinner (I’ll rise, but I won’t shine!).

Didn’t find any one section to be slower to fill (usually I do); my slow fill was pretty evenly spread around.

Have a great day, all!

Misty said...

Delightful Wednesday puzzle--many thanks, Roger and Kathy. I love seeing a puzzle with circles (my apologies, Anon and OVAL), and noticed the LATE shifts but not the ordered sequences, very clever, thanks for pointing them out, Melissa. Like others, TRIP UP drove me crazy because I too kept thinking it referred to a person falling, and it was only because FORCING had to be right that I finally got it. Melissa I liked your pictures of Alice and Simone, and didn't really know what a PORTICO looked like until your image--thanks for that too.

Fun poems, Owen.

Television still not working, front door lock fixed only temporarily until a new fixture can be formulated that will fit into the door's openings. Houses, can't live with them, can't live without them, but I made it home safely from my trip and that's the important thing.

Have a good day, everybody!

Chairman Moe said...

"Puzzling Thoughts":

I liked this puzzle! Just enough "crunch" for a Weds, a solvable theme, and plenty of poem "fodder" (which I'll share in a moment).

Hands up for thinking "RESAW" was a stretch; I almost "MOWED" my lawn (in 66a) before I solved a perp or two. Fitting, that this solve (EDGED) appeared, where it did!

VALENCE > VALANCE (that was certainly "GAY" of me); ALOT > ATON; IMP > ELF. I LUV U for "romantic text" was pretty clever. I think I first saw this exact phrase used on a piece of candy. But what if a guy were to create these? As in Valentines Candy Hearts Gone Wrong

I MARVEL AT the abilities of crossword puzzlers and Corner Recappers (is that related to a RESTORER) to provide us this pleasure, each day.

And speaking of pleasure, here are a couple of ditties your resident "muse of poetry" created from today's puzzle:

Ansel Adams just now looked askance
At the drapes cloaking Statue's expanse.
But he focused, no frown;
And you know his renown:
The Man who shot Liberty's VALANCE

And for the Star Wars and Star Trek fans:

Piri and Pollux
Escaped together. Are they
Two "P's" in a POD?

😅😅😅

inanehiker said...

I was up in Wisconsin for 4 days for a wedding, so just getting back to the routine here at home. Enjoyed the puzzle today - a little crunch - but smooth sailing for the most part.
I didn't really know what the MAVEN meant (reading it in stories it always was a group of older ladies), but learned more about it reading Malcolm Gladwell's book The Tipping Point.

Per Husker Gary's question, if anyone visits in Jeff City, I will take them to Arris's Pizza right across from the capitol. It has been there since 1961 - still run by Arris Pardalos' family (who are Greek, not Italian).

Thanks MB and Roger & Kathy!

CrossEyedDave said...

Late shift?

Chairman Moe said...

Meant to write: Paploo and Pardek; not Piri and Pollux ... -T will understand when he "grades" this! 😅

Chairman Moe said...

HG @ 9:56 ---> regarding the first MLB game played @ night, under artificial lighting:

While at the time I was unaware of the significance, I actually attended Game 4 of the 1971 World Series. I was a student at Pitt, and was able to purchase a ticket to this game. Sat in the upper deck in RF. Bought a program, kept score, and later on had it autographed by HOF 3B Brooks Robinson.

Somewhere, in the mountain of boxes I moved from OH to FL, that scorecard exists. Wonder if it has any value, other than sentimental?

Lucina said...

I've been waking up LATE but it's better than insomnia so no complaints.

WEES about the puzzle, especially ASCENT and RESAW. But to have gems like the WASTELAND, CHARON and others, there must be slag. I also like circles.

sometimes OHMIGOSH is spelled that way in novels and in comics.

Owen:
I see ERATO has visited you again. Good job!

CMOE:
You, too, and funny.

Melissa, I really enjoyed Scrambled Eggs as well as all your commentary. Thank you.

Thanks to Roger and Kathy for a TALE/TEAL/LATE/ET AL mixture.

Have an enjoyable day, everyone!

Lucina said...

Lemonade:
I have no idea about Pizzaria Bianco and since I no longer eat pizza it's unlikely I'll find out. I'll ask the pizza lovers in my circle.

PK said...

Hi Y'all! Great puzzle, Roger & Kathy! Great expo, Melissa.

No circles. Lost the puzzle before I got it studied to find the theme.

NW was the last to fill. As many times as I watched "The Fugitive", I can't believe I couldn't come up with ONE ARM. Even after I had ONE. Duh!

But I did come up with CHARON which I didn't think I knew. Two perps and it popped to mind. DNK: EDOM

"Tidied, as a lawn": not mowed, not pick up -- sticks or toys. Perps said EDGED.

Pizza: only had it from Pizza Hut. If I find one that doesn't make me break out in hives, I'm loyal. Okay, I crave it to be truthful but only allow myself one a month. Well, twice last month. My daughter who once worked for guys with multiple Pizza Hut franchises won't eat it anymore.

Picard said...

I was impressed indeed that LATE was SHIFTed, not just scrambled. SHES/CHARON cross was last to fall. I was thrown off CHARON because I had spelled ECZEMA wrong.

Star Trek had a clever episode on the foolishness of racism that involved a planet CHARON.

But I just learned from this link above that it was spelled CHERON. Close enough!

desper-otto: Hand up no APPS on my ten dollar phone from KMart that plugs into the wall!

Here are my photos of our California SENATE.

Here is my article on a VINTAGE AUTO show where the vehicles had been RESTOREd well!

From yesterday:
PK and Michael: By all means use whatever works for you. I think Michael's conclusion is the best.

Picard said...

Did anyone else get stuck with WHEW before PHEW?

Hand up TRIP UP for ASCENT was amusing!

Dudley said...

Hello Puzzlers -

Hand up for liking trip up as the clue.

I’m sorry that we lost the word “gay” to re-purposing. It was such a nice word in its day.

The use of “already” as an emphatic always makes me smile (see Oval 6:49). I recall a Mad About You episode in which Bruce Willis was the guest star; his character was an actor known - surprise! - for action thrillers, the latest one named Die Already. Those writers had a sense of humor.

Howdy MBee, beautiful images!

Bill G said...

Great photos of the woodies.

Have you been to the car show at Pebble Beach? I love those old cars, especially the Packards.

OwenKL said...

HGary: Re -- the juxtaposition of LAUPER/ECZEMA -- Huh? LAUPER isn't in this puzzle anywhere. I went thru the grid like a word-find, twice for L's and once for U's -- Then I started going thru the clues and found her at 51d, abutting ECZEMA.

Why do people not like circles? They don't interfere with solving at all. Some here (myself included) have mentioned not even noticing them sometimes until the puzzle was near completed. Now, I think the theme is the real puzzle, and the words are just a step in the process of figuring it out, so when I use the Mensa site I enjoy the extra challenge of doing it without the hints. But sometimes the circles are so essential I just can't solve it without them. Now, a reveal too close to the beginning of the puzzle, that I have a beef with!

Lemonade714 said...

inanehiker, it was I who asked about pizza, and I was fascinated by your suggestion. The first pizzeria I ever went to in my very small town was ATHENS PIZZAowned and operated by a Greek family. Their story is LINKED HERE

I did read about ARRIS PIZZA as well as the HISTORY of pizza in America.

Lucina said...

Picard:
Since I solve across and down together, PHEW emerged quickly.

I liked your picture of the SENATE. They always look so grand. In New Hampshire we visited their SENATE and though much smaller, it was just as fine.

What an astonishing number of "woodies" on display! I often wonder what happens to some of those old cars besides the junk yard destination. One of my nephews-in-law has a business restoring 1960s chevies and corvettes and he never lacks for customers.

I'm happy with my new all-in-one printer which includes a SCANNER.

The Jumble today was fast solve!

Roy said...

The two houses of the NYS Legislature are the SENATE and the Assembly. I know the ancient state (Republic) of Rome had a unicameral assembly called the SENATE.

RE+SAW is a legitimate juxtaposition of a prefix and a root word. Although, I would say "I saw him again."

Thank you, Moe, for the guy Valentine hearts.

OH MY GOSh>O MY GOSH>OMIGOSH

Had ONE ARMed for the villain; perps gave me ONE, so I omitted the ed.

Jayce said...

Fun puzzle. I was thrown a bit by there being two LATE entries; I guess I didn't expect the reveal to have the same word in it as one of the revealees.
Also loved the clues for ASCENT, APPS, SHIRT, and ONE ARM.
Hand up for misspelling VALENCE at first.
Also wrinkled my nose at RESAW. Can't unsee it now!
Good catch on noticing the connection between ECZEMA and Cyndi Lauper.
In my and my family's opinion, the best pizza in the greater Phoenix, AZ, area is Began's Classic Italian Pizza on McClintock Dr. in Tempe. LW and I haven't found one in our area, although we did enjoy the ones at a place called Willow Street Wood-Fired Pizza near us. For Sicilian style pizza we also like Cicero's Pizza, also near us.
Good wishes to you all.

AnonymousPVX said...

A bit of a speed run again today, despite the crunch.

Wasn’t Lea Thompson the girlfriend of Michael Fox in Back to the Future? Then she had a TV comedy series after that I think.

Tinbeni said...

Gotta like a puzzle that has LIBATION in the grid.

Cheers!

Bill G said...

Owen and others re. circles. My opinion is that circles are dandy. They are an easy way to make the theme more obvious. My beef is that they aren't available when I solve online, at least at the Mensa site and others that use the same format. So it's not the circles I object to, it's the lack of circles when they are supposed to be part of the grid.

Jinx in Norfolk said...

FIW, messing up LImATIeN. LIBATION is in honor of a deity? OMIGOSH!

A more common romantic text is "143" ("I LOVE YOU" or "I MISS YOU"), but that doesn't work all that well for crosswords. The Minot's Ledge light flashes that sequence, and warns of the Cohasset rocks off Massachusetts.

I worked at Pizza Hut in my ute. We got in trouble with Corporate for using locally-sourced, stone-ground, unbleached flour. I loved working (moonlighting) there and still like pizza, although I avoid big chains in any type of food. I do not understand how big chain pizza joints survive in cities like Chicago and St Pete Beach.

Wilbur Charles said...

Wow, there's edible pizza in the Tampa Bay area? Who Gnu. As the owl said to the bovine.
Inanehiker: I think Greeks make the best pizza. One of my baseball buddies bought a pizza place that got me fat circa 1980.
Speaking of... Another baseball buddy played in that '71 game.
Dudley, we also lost "Swell" that was replaced by"Wonderful". Which I hate as well. Just me I'll bet.
Picard. Which of C-Moe's pair is Trek?
Btw, I found#1 which was four of Star Wars to have a lot of allegory. 1-3 were trash.
Btw. This one coming out is SW#???
Lucina, I had EVINCE for #4 which caused me all sort of havoc. Plus I was shooting* for vein, another wrong turn .

Somebody put this worm in my ear

WC


* Intentional after the fact

Wilbur Charles said...

Sorry, My note to Lucina was in re. _J.

Circles, Schmircles* I'm a P&I guy. Sussing the theme is part of solving. No suss, no FIR. IMHO.

Liked the l'icks Owen. And your 'ku C-Moe that needs annotation

TS Elliot was part of the 'New Crit" discussion. Possibly only when I searched. I will say one person's rubbish is another's Jewel.
Speaking of.. I liked the write-up today especially your link to Red.

Jinx, I just saw your post. I do recall a pizza place off of St Pete Beach. Two reasons btw, connected: Price and children. The kids will take Howie's every time.

WC

* That was a NYT Sunday theme. 5/27 or 5/20 . I missed on Hardly a Schmuck?
NO ?

Lucina said...

WC:
Did you finally solve the J?

I e-mailed Dave2 and he replied that he is busy moving to an assisted living facility and one of his family members has health issues, too. He hasn't done puzzles lately.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Apologies again for checking in so late!

This was the final day for my son's visit. He and my grandkids are on their way back to Texas now. It was truly great having them with us for the past three days. (They were here for four, but of course Disneyland had to consume one.)

Finally, back to the Wienbergs's pzl. This was quite enjoyable, a perfect fit for Wednesday. Whenever a Wednesday opus matches its reputation (half easy/half hard) it is the most pleasurable of Xwd experiences. We really don't enjoy fiercely tough pzls - even though they can reward us with a sense of high accomplishment - nor do we get much fun out of the super easy types.
Today's was just right for me, making me think two or three times before committing to a fill, but never hurting my ego by keeping an answer out of reach.

In the end, my Ta- DA! had to be earned, and it was a worthy prize.

Oh, and the Jumble was fun too. I had a wrong early word, but I made it right by working backwards from the obvious final answer.

~ OMK


____________
Diagonal Report:
Three. A nice wide 3-way on the mirror side.

Ol' Man Keith said...

Oh, and Welcome back, Misty!

~ OMK

Picard said...

Lucina: Thanks for the PHEW explanation. Has anyone ever actually said PHEW?

Glad you enjoyed my California SENATE photo! And glad you got to see the SENATE in New Hampshire. I also got to see the US SENATE with my parents when I was a teen. Not sure if I have any photos there. Back in the 70s there was not much security. I am sure it is different now.

And glad you enjoyed my Woodies photos! Yes, I am sure many were junked, so it is good that these people took the effort to lovingly RESTORE them. If you figure out the time and expense invested and what the cars are worth after being RESTOREd, I am guessing the work pays much less than minimum wage!

BillG: Thanks for the kind words about my Woodies photos! No, I have not been to the Pebble Beach car show. A former lady friend got us a great inside deal staying at the big Pebble Beach resort, though. I have VINTAGE AUTO photos from quite a few other shows, though!

Wilbur Charles: Sorry, I am not understanding the Trek question?

Anonymous said...

Dudley, so sad to hear that you think we "lost" the word GAY. I believe we have lost you. It still is a nice word and perfectly describes me. Definition 1 or 2? I'll let you chew on that one. This has to be the least diverse group on the internet. All white, all over 40 and all impressed with themselves. Sounds like a trump rally. Just kidding. Haha. More like a Hillary rally in West Hampton.

Anonymous said...

Yeah Dudley. Here in America many, many words have multiple meanings and its up to you to assign the appropriate definition. For example, RED can mean color, a political slant or color. Hint: one of those is racist but we still haven't lost the word. Deplorable is another one. How about black. Is that "lost" also? Briar is a plant, right?

You sicken me to think when I call my friends GAY, it's not for a definition you prefer.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if gay apparel is festive clothing or short shorts and rainbow colored clothing.

Gay nineties depends on the century to which you refer. Remember Wham!, Boy George and Freddie Mercury?

Wilbur Charles said...

Picard, I was referring to the haiku posted by C-Moe. He refers to Star trek and/or Star Wars. And two characters:Piri and Pollux. Then he posted again at 1126 and says Paploo and Pardek. I'm not that familiar with either series but since you're the Captain you might be familiar with those names.
If it was LOtR check with me or CED

Lucina, I did finish the _J. OMK, I needed all four to get the riddle. As I said, since I had that V, I tried a shot in a vein. That's what a good druggie might have thought.
Btw re. #3. Are there any rules about plurals? Yes, #3 is not plural, that's just the word just like "pants" are not plural. DUCKS would be and is probably not "legal".

WC

Re. The xword . I agree with omk. Perfect Wednesday level crunch. SW slowed me a tad .

Wilbur Charles said...

This one was considered hilarious 40-50 years ago. Not funny today i guess.
If your PC sensitive, avoid this

WC

Chairman Moe said...

WC @ 9:57 --->

where I found the alien character names

Wilbur Charles said...

Ok. Thanks C-Moe. I see Piri. What an amazing list. I naively thought that a Trek buff, fe. Picard, would know. My bad.
I may see if there's a list of LOtR P's. And maybe try to craft a 'ku.

PS. Do you recall that Playboy cartoon from way, way back?

WC in the gloaming

PK said...

The Kansas House and Senate are very grand also. Two of my kids paged there in separate years. I recently had a message from the Representative, I followed around the Capitol several times. She tells me the recent very expensive remodeling has made it even more grand. My husband & I were weekly visitors when we were lobbying in the committee on water issues in the 1990's. Our points of view were successful in the final law passed. One of the most rewarding times of my life.

Anonymous T said...

Hi All!

LATE, LATE, LATE today... Been investigating an incident and I'm into my third-SHIFT 3rd day in a row.

Thanks Roger & Kathy for this TALE of a puzzle (resee (saw?) what C, Eh! @9:46 noted).
I had a heck of a time in the SW - didn't help my ELF was IMPish.

mb - nice expo; the can of V8 you hit me with at ASCENT was just what I needed. Sir Paul is always cool - thx.

WOs: KahN (sp?); Imp b/f ELF (hi Moe!) and I'm not sure what else in the SW corner... It's quite the ink-blot.
ESPs: LEA, EDOMITE, ECXEMA (spelling), ACENT
Fav: WEES - c/a for Trip up had me going... My last fill.
Runner-up: c/a for LIBATION #learning!

{B, A-, A} {that's good, groan [Paploo & Pardek... Better :-)]}

Lucina - thanks for the update on D4.
OMK - been meaning to ask - where in TX? You may have said it b/f but I ...squirrel! Nice deconstruction of a good Wed Pzl.

Lem - we have a Grimaldi's in Sugar Land (noted in El Paso). I noticed Dillion's in SPI wasn't listed - it should be; right behind Gabatoni's (not associated with the chain). Of course, there's House of -T in Sugar Land :-) I built six beautiful pies last Sunday.

PK - Um, I don't even know how to respond to Pizza Hut(?!?) :-). Jinx - I'm with you on chain'd-pizza joints; Russo's is the only one I'll patronize.

C.Moe - LOL @ candy-hearts!

I wish I had something fun to link but I'm still working (just jotting notes re: puzzle between queries against 4TB of logs - when it's done, I'll still have >1M records to analyze). I can tell you what today's Splunk SHIRT says though:
Drop your breaches.

Cheers, -T

Wilbur Charles said...


No Ku . But re. Lotr, I'll let you dirge

Boromir

Along with me

WC

Misty said...

Lucina, Wilbur, and Ol'Man Keith, just realized you all solved the J this morning. I have to get in on your conversations more.

Many thanks for the welcome back, Ol' Man Keith. It's good to be back.

Anonymous said...

I apologize to C.C. and Lucina for saying the bloggers are all white. Mea culpa.

Chairman Moe said...

WC, yes

Lucina said...

Anonymous:
I'm sure there are many others to whom you should apologize. We live in a diverse world and the Blog is part of it.

Mark M said...

Count me in with those who don’t get the hatred for circles in a puzzle. If Mensa loses the circles, isn’t that a problem with their site and not the puzzle? Just wondering - for those who have been solving the LAT puzzles for awhile, do puzzles with shaded squares ever get published? If so, do people object to those as well? When I used to solve the NYT, it seems those were pretty common, but I don’t recall seeing any since switching to the LAT.